I just finished reading PZ Myers’ breakdown of #creozerg 2, an organized trip of nonbelievers to a Creation “Museum” in Springfield, Missouri.
You can read the entire post here. You might be able to see the Creation Museum’s web site here, but at the time of this post, it appears PZ Myers’ has shut the site down via traffic from his site.
Tina and I were “lucky” enough to go to #creozerg 1, which is where I met many of my readers after tweeting and posting photos of the event.
My photos and recap are here and here.
I would like to post a good portion of the conversation PZ reportedly had with the head of the place. I need to emphasize the part about Noah’s Ark and that God killed all but 8 people, including babies and children.
Babies and children.
Worshipping baby killers is not on my todo list.
Be sure to let me know in the comments how I have taken god out of context. Here’s the conversation:
They generally seemed like very nice people, who were pleased to have this crowd packing their little place. They offered us cookies and juice. I think we made their month.
I was dismayed at one bit of conversation with Dr Rod Butterworth, head of the place. He was trying to explain how the bloody god of the Old Testament really wasn’t such a bad fellow after all.
“You don’t understand: all those people he had to kill, were horrible people. They deserved to be killed!”
To which I replied, “But that’s exactly the excuse Hitler used to murder the Jews!”
“No…” He seemed slightly nonplussed.
One of Mattir’s spawn was there, and she explained to him that it was true, that Jews were accused of blood libel, and the Nazis claimed they used Jesus’ blood in evil rituals.
“Oh, well, there probably were Jews who did that, who hated Christianity, and those Jews would have deserved it.”
You could have knocked me flat with a feather.
I pointed out that his god, according to his myth, exterminated the entire population of the planet, except for 8 people. Was he really arguing that all of those people, even the babies, were all so wretchedly evil that they deserved death?
He replied that yes, they did, because they refused to worship god, and god as their creator had every right to do with them as he will.
I continuously have to upgrade and reboot my shock and awe from spiritually and intellectually constipated religious fanatics & creationists evolving the legends of …& their deity to be a sadistic weapon of mass destruction to whom they pay to be terrorized by while proffering incantations to use the divine WMD upon fellow man….(made in his image)
On one hand the conservatives, as a whole, tell us they are rabid frothing panicked that anyone dares to implement a weapon of mass destruction
….while on the other hand they never cease to instigate their divine weapon of mass destruction to exterminate mankind.
We wondered if there was a concerted effort to shut down CMOTO’s site. Here, you practically give proof. Is that legal? I’m one of Rod’s daughters. I’m sorry you’re so hung up on the OT Ark story. As someone who doesn’t believe in God, you have put a lot of effort into a lot into protesting God.
I did read the original article you quote and read about 30 of the 400+ comments. One commenter even suggested that Rod must want to kill all evolutionists! Talk about crazy suppositions. Several atheists were apologizing to CMOTO staff because of PZ Myer’s incredibly rude behavior. I’m thankful that my Dad is a positive, optimistic person, with integrity in all that he does. I can see that faith in God continues to make him a person that helps other people. I have seen him nearly give his last dollar to help someone in need. I encourage you to find better people to ‘follow’ than those who spend time antagonizing and devaluing others.
I am praying for you, and that shouldn’t offend you in the least – unless God really exists. (Just read Sahar’s above comment – It’s wacky – seriously? “Rabid frothing” – Really? So sad.) What is so offensive about Creationism/God? If you are an atheist and there is nothing spiritually guiding you, then why the rage? How can God be ‘bloody’ if He doesn’t exist to you? You are mad at God because He IS real and He doesn’t fit into your idea of what you think He should be. Faith is trusting God and accepting Him for who He is. He is much more than the small/confused version you have been presented.
Garsh, Donna, you had me at:
Not only is it legal, it’s a natural phenomenon that happens on the Internet everyday. Twitter shuts down about three times a week.
Heavy traffic to the CMOTO site shut it down.
The rest of your comment is equally illegitimate.
All the best,
Jeremy
Donna, you’re really confused. I think you need to put the Internet down for a bit and go read some peer-reviewed scientific literature.