This isn’t an amazing video, by any means. But the message is a good one.
I couldn’t really finish it myself, so I won’t blame you if you cut out early.
Atheist Life vs Religious Life
art, politics, religion: discuss
art, politics, religion: discuss
This isn’t an amazing video, by any means. But the message is a good one.
I couldn’t really finish it myself, so I won’t blame you if you cut out early.
Le Café Wittypoots 
In other words, atheists don’t have any standards for morality. I think we all knew that already. You should do some study on who lives longer. You will find that devout Christians live longer on average reflecting a better life.
God Bless…
Great response, Z. I’m quite sure if you had access to such research, you’d be a dear and provide us with some.
I, for one, am not going to convert b/c you say you live longer.
Why do you want to live longer anyway. Every hour on earth is an hour away from your creator.
Z, you really need to have your i’s dotted and t’s crossed when you make statements like the one you did.
I know this will come as a bit of a surprise, and it may even shock some, but it appears that a simple Google search reveals that countries which report the highest levels of happiness also tend to have the highest life expectancies.
Wanna guess what also correlates with higher rates of happiness? Come on now you can do it. I’ll give you a hint and tell you that it means they don’t believe in a supernatural sky fairy.
Here’s a handy reference tool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Why are you Americans down at number 38? And look at some of the countries that are above you!
It’s funny how the bigoted twisted loving christian zdenny never responds whenever he gets caught out talking utter bollocks !!!
I think he’s not getting at any at home (cos his poor wife is probably bored frigid with all his praying rubbish and internet hatred) and so he has to turn to being nasty and bigoted to get any attention.
He’s pathetic
I just feel sorry for his poor kids..growing up with someone so deluded and nasty for a father…I’m sure it’ll affect them in the future. Perhaps someone should contact social services and get them taken away to a home where they’ll not have to suffer religious abuse ???
I think for myself, one of the important things was not my fear of going to hell – not something I was concerned about really. I was just afraid of the idea that people I love – some of whom I love very dearly (including my dad), might go to hell. It made me miserable to consider people I didn’t even know might go to hell.
It was much worse when I was a young fundie, because then I knew people I loved would go to hell (such as my dad), if I didn’t do something about. And the thought that people I didn’t particularly know were probably going to go to hell without my god’s grace was horrible. So I was a rather persistent asshole when it came to proselytizing – though mostly I tried to be a good example (which for extreme ADHD boy, try was the operative word). Worse, I was also absolutely petrified that all these people were going to hell – my dad, one of my brothers, random people – they were all condemming themsls c/
So I decided to make a graph for fun. Thought the commenters might enjoy it. Here it is. http://www.lousycanuck.ca/?p=3128
Very nice chart, Jason! Thanks. I need to read that paper you cited with more detail. I wish it included more of the northern European states. Or did I miss something?
You guys are so funny. Life expectancy for those who pray is longer. It has been proven scientifically. Here are some links:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_9_98/ai_64057352/
http://personaldevelopment.suite101.com/article.cfm/does_prayer_aid_wellness_and_survival
This is common knowledge. Your respons reveals your ideology and indoctrination that ignores science when it is convient.
Even Jason’s own chart shows that the folks in the U.S. have the highest level of happiness! Of course, the U.S. is one of the top most religious nations in the world. Go figure!
God Bless!!
God Bless…
I didn’t sneeze once, let alone twice, Z-diddy.
Nice try on the articles. Are there any numbers to support such claims or are they just “prayer seems to help” kinds of things?
Don’t get me wrong. I love that you actually did a little poking around and found some links. I was hoping for a little more science. Okay. I was hoping for a lot more. But this is a start. One of the articles pertains to healing time, which really doesn’t give information for life expectancy.
But for the two links, I give you a star sticker. Your mothah will be so proud of you.
Nigeria has a high level of self-reported happiness, and the highest level of prayer (~93%). However it also has the lowest life expectancy at birth (~47yo), the lowest GDP purchasing power (~$2100), and quite a high disparity between richest and poorest people.
Brazil has the highest disparity between the rich and the poor, and a mediocre 72yo life expectancy, yet a very high level of prayer.
Switzerland has an extremely low level of prayer, the highest happiness, the second highest GDP PPP (second only to the States), a very low income disparity, and a mediocre ~71yo) life expectancy. Australia compares extremely favorably with Switzerland, and it has very low levels of prayer.
How can you so thoroughly misinterpret my graph, Zdenny? Is it because you’re not even looking?
I was checking out this page at Wiki which is quite telling. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
I’m surprised to see on both Jason’s chart and wiki that Israel’s numbers are higher than ours. Wow.
I’m also surprised to see those evil socialist Canadians are outdoing the US numbers. How are we supposed to hate health care reform when you guys have it so well, Jason?
Haha, I’ve been saying that for years. It’s easy to say your health care system is better because there’s more money in the system — but when most of that money is in insurance and making money for middlemen, it’s fairly obvious that money-in-the-system isn’t the best way to measure these things.
I do have to note that that’s life expectancy at birth. I don’t know if that includes violent deaths where Israel is constantly a warzone.
I’m also surprised to see those evil socialist Canadians are outdoing the US numbers.
Oh, this is why (just one of the many reasons) those Canuckistanian bastards need to be invaded!!!
Not that Jason and his tomorrow to be wife are bad folks – for Canuckistanians anyhow. But then we deserve to get the good with the bad…
I know some polyamorous Canadians that might marry you and get you in here without any bloodshed. And you wouldn’t want chainsaws and beavers coming at your pretty face and messing it up, so I’m sure you’ll be interested.
I heard about Jason’s soon to be married self. I didn’t realize it was tomorrow.
Congrats, Jason. I can can vouch favorably for the married life. For me, it’s the best thing in the world … next to my wife. Marriage first … wife second, as we atheists like to say.
Honk.
This is off topic on my own blog, but don’t you guys get tired of the Christian attempt to say, “God first, then wife, then kids, then Bucky my three legged dog … and last but not least Santa then Satan.”
I kid, but you know.
Or the whole, “Atheists have no standard of truth or morality, so they can’t be moral. That means they are immoral, because they have no absolutes.”
It has to be the most whiny, childish attempt by Christians to look as dumb as they possibly can while receiving great accolades only from themselves.
Or check out this discussion over at the Pullman Christian Trio site that started between Z-diddy and the blog’s founder Justin. I’ve been at the blog a lot since I started that book challenge. Just try to follow their discussion. I DARE you. Both of them are waxing unpoetic with arbitrary language that neither of them understand because neither of them knows what the other is talking about.
http://pullmanwainfoaboutjesuschrist.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/the-transcendental-refutation-of-atheism/
That’s all. I had to get that off my chest. Phew.